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wars in washington i'm gonna check out. much more news ahead of the given in this hour including the title of the prime minister the press and a public baying for blood has that done. ethics inquiry says britain's free media needs to be reined in with regulation big news in that we go more on it and silicon valley's testing out the talent to the break we explain why there's no no place for those who helped america's digital innovation. wedge issues do just what their name implies they get between people and drive them apart like a wage and these issues seem to always take the forefront in the media things like abortion gun rights marijuana legalization and the weather well the weather isn't really a west cost people sure talk about it way too much there's only so much room in the national discourse and the switch issues just eat up all of the time and attention but the thing is that there's a little something called the tenth amendment you know the one that says that any powers that are specifically delegated the federal go
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in a bid for statehood since then tel aviv and washington's approach to the middle east conflict has gained them an ever shrinking minority of supporters the irony is that the bid was passed on the watches of israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and his rightwing foreign minister avigdor lieberman it was last year that lieberman boasted in the united nations that the moral majority of western states was with israel it now turns out he was wrong and whether israel wants it or not it's increasingly clear that something needs to give policy r.t. tel aviv earlier israeli college like true mary eisen told me that those who are movers directed against israel. the majority of israelis including this government by the way have stated clearly that they'd like to see palestine independent and both of us understand that there is a difference between saying palestine independent and doing it on your own with the united nations without israel as a partner as if saying that the impediment is just the state that's here let's do this hand in hand without negotiations without us as a partner to
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the palestinian people will wake up tomorrow and find that little about their lives has changed but washington's unflinching support for tel aviv has separated from some of its longtime allies in the un more and more countries are turning their back on decades of negotiations that have led nowhere what has changed has been the continual failure of the us controlled so-called peace process to lead to any kind of end to occupation and what i think was the catalyst here is that political pressure on other matters and on the palestinian authority from their own population from their own people who were saying you know what we've had twenty one years of failed diplomacy we're not looking for twenty two we want something different and that's something means a real shift in policy first and foremost the consensus on the international stage is that israel needs to stop building settlements deemed illegal by the un and certainly be international community you know is a horse. a provocation which heroes of course are going to run so called. it was a little more than a year ago that palestinian president m
the palestinian people will wake up tomorrow and find that little about their lives has changed but washington's unflinching support for tel aviv has separated from some of its longtime allies in the un more and more countries are turning their back on decades of negotiations that have led nowhere what has changed has been the continual failure of the us controlled so-called peace process to lead to any kind of end to occupation and what i think was the catalyst here is that political pressure...
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in the "moneyline" tonight, a stalemate in washington d.c. wall street's back today. the balance squeaking out of four. gain. s&p up less than a point, nasdaq slipping lower on the day. volume on th biboard slightly heavier than usual. all the major indexes finied higher for the month. down 71 points. s&p and nasdaq both ended higher. the three biggest winners for the month, cisco systems up to nine 1/4%. home depot, bank of america, both of just above 6%. aaa now urging the environmental protection agency to halt the sales of gas with directional concentrations arguing the fuel blend known as e 15 with an additional 5% ethanol cause engine damage but that is not covered by most car warranties. the epa says cars made after the 2000's one mall can handle that fuel brand. triple late shows 95 percent of carsmade before 2012 will not. up next, president obama meeting with everyone about the fiscal cliff, everyone except for the leaders in washington d.c. for the republican party. we will share ourist of people that the president might also want to think about sitting dow
in the "moneyline" tonight, a stalemate in washington d.c. wall street's back today. the balance squeaking out of four. gain. s&p up less than a point, nasdaq slipping lower on the day. volume on th biboard slightly heavier than usual. all the major indexes finied higher for the month. down 71 points. s&p and nasdaq both ended higher. the three biggest winners for the month, cisco systems up to nine 1/4%. home depot, bank of america, both of just above 6%. aaa now urging the...
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steve is live in the washington bureau. is there any movement on either side. >> not much. a few republicans who are willing to talk about higher tax rev news but not higher tax rates. the president made a direct appeal to the public. the toy factory in pin pen. he urged congress to pass a bill and extend the era tax cuts for middle class only. >> congress could prevent a tax hike on the first 250,000, of everybodiy income. that means 98 percent of americans and nen percent of small businesses wouldn't see income taxes go up at all . even the wealthiest americans would get a tax cut on $250,000 of the income. democrats are pushing for a vote and it was approved by the secretary. >> and republican leaders what are their next move. >> they are sticking to their guns on the tax rate . they are reacting strongly to the plan that the president uned this week. house spheeker - on speaker boehner said it was not a serious proposal. it is an advantage to run the clock out and getting closer to the deadline in the end of the year. at some point if there is a break through it has to
steve is live in the washington bureau. is there any movement on either side. >> not much. a few republicans who are willing to talk about higher tax rev news but not higher tax rates. the president made a direct appeal to the public. the toy factory in pin pen. he urged congress to pass a bill and extend the era tax cuts for middle class only. >> congress could prevent a tax hike on the first 250,000, of everybodiy income. that means 98 percent of americans and nen percent of small...
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peter doocy has details this morning on the latest developments from washington. good morning, peter. >> good morning, eric. spieger boehner said negotiations are nowhere, period and he called treasury secretary tim geithner's presentation of the white house proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff earlier in week "nonserious." >> i was flabbergasted. i lookedded a him like you can't be serious. i've just never seen anything like it. you know we have seven weeks between election day and the end of the year. three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> reporter: here is what has the speaker flabbergasted. the white house would like to raise tax rates on top earners to where they were in the clinton administration, 39.6%. they would also like to raise $1.6 trillion with new taxes over the next decade, while cutting about $400 billion through entitlement reform. although, those cuts are not specific and not guaranteed. but the treasury secretary says the administration's plan is fiscally responsible and would prevent taxes from going up on 98% of americans.
peter doocy has details this morning on the latest developments from washington. good morning, peter. >> good morning, eric. spieger boehner said negotiations are nowhere, period and he called treasury secretary tim geithner's presentation of the white house proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff earlier in week "nonserious." >> i was flabbergasted. i lookedded a him like you can't be serious. i've just never seen anything like it. you know we have seven weeks between election...
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she's in washington a lot of time. she doesn't spend a lot of time in new york. as you know, the office is in new york. the security council is supposed to beyo in session regularly, ad she's more times than not -- not there. so i think the record performance at the un speaks for itself, and anyone who thinks that she's deserving of a promotion should actually take a look at the last four years to realize that she doesn't deserve a promotion. she really should be fired. she's been a terrible representative for the united states. >> you know, rick, when i was talking with judge mukasey. one of the thingsa he mentioned in his article is the fact that irane was allowed to get on the human rights commission as it relates to women's issues without any real objection by the united states. i mean, i find that unbelievable. do you? >> it's totally unbelievable and when they were elected, she didn't speak out afterwards. even if she wants to say oh, didn't realize the election was coming up or it came out of the blue, once they're elected, there was no condemnation from s
she's in washington a lot of time. she doesn't spend a lot of time in new york. as you know, the office is in new york. the security council is supposed to beyo in session regularly, ad she's more times than not -- not there. so i think the record performance at the un speaks for itself, and anyone who thinks that she's deserving of a promotion should actually take a look at the last four years to realize that she doesn't deserve a promotion. she really should be fired. she's been a terrible...
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and now, live to washington with the latest. steve? >> that deadline for action could be fast approaching but the two sides do not appear to be in a hurry, instead of negotiating a deal the players spent their unsunday in -- sundy taking their views to the public. speaker boehner appeared on fox news sunday expressing his surprise when geithner laid out the white house plan of action, calling for a new revenue and stimulus spending. >> i was flabbergasted. i have never seen anything like it. we have several weeks between election day and the end of the year and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> for his part, secretary geithner saying the ball is new in the g.o.p.'s court and he says the administration is ready to move forward if republicans agree to raise taxes on wealthy americans and specify their own demands for reducing government spending and he defended the plan that speaker boehner says is not a serious proposal. >> we think that is a very good southwest proposals and that is good for the economy. if y
and now, live to washington with the latest. steve? >> that deadline for action could be fast approaching but the two sides do not appear to be in a hurry, instead of negotiating a deal the players spent their unsunday in -- sundy taking their views to the public. speaker boehner appeared on fox news sunday expressing his surprise when geithner laid out the white house plan of action, calling for a new revenue and stimulus spending. >> i was flabbergasted. i have never seen anything...
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. >> hello again from fox news in washington. well, we had quite a day around here friday with talks to avoid the fiscal cliff deadlock, and everyone saying the other side is to blame, pressure secretary geithner scheduled a ground of interviews. then friday afternoon, speaker boehner's office called to say he wanted to come on fox news sunday to tell his side of the story. you will hear from bain -- john bainner a few minutes. first my conversation with tim geithner about the lack of progress in steering away from the cliff. >> secretary geithner, welcome back to fox news sunday. >> nice to see you, chris. >> i spoke with house speaker boehner before you came over here. he said when you presented your plan to him on thursday he said, "you can't be serious" and mitch mcconnell, the republican leader, said he burst into laughter. >> chris, they are in kind of a tough position now. it's obviously a little hard for them now and they are trying to figure out where they go next. we might need to give them a little bit of time to figur
. >> hello again from fox news in washington. well, we had quite a day around here friday with talks to avoid the fiscal cliff deadlock, and everyone saying the other side is to blame, pressure secretary geithner scheduled a ground of interviews. then friday afternoon, speaker boehner's office called to say he wanted to come on fox news sunday to tell his side of the story. you will hear from bain -- john bainner a few minutes. first my conversation with tim geithner about the lack of...
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mahmoud abbas came to the un in a bid for statehood since then tel aviv and washington's approach to the middle east conflict has gained them an ever shrinking minority of supporters the irony is that the bid was passed on the watches of israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and his rightwing foreign minister avigdor lieberman it was last year that lieberman boasted in the united nations that the moral majority of western states was with israel it now turns out he was wrong and whether israel wants it or not it's increasingly clear that something needs to give the r.t. tel aviv. egypt's you prison court has postponed ruling on the legitimacy of the panel that drafted the country's new constitution after several thousand supporters of president morsi prevented the judges from entering the building morsi has set the date for a referendum on the charter fatigue a week's time and made harsh criticism from opponents who claim the draft undermines basic democratic freedoms artie's tom barton reports from cairo. unrest returns to the streets after the revolution that toppled hosni mubar
mahmoud abbas came to the un in a bid for statehood since then tel aviv and washington's approach to the middle east conflict has gained them an ever shrinking minority of supporters the irony is that the bid was passed on the watches of israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and his rightwing foreign minister avigdor lieberman it was last year that lieberman boasted in the united nations that the moral majority of western states was with israel it now turns out he was wrong and whether...
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the us says it's trying to steer israel and the palestinians back to the table so far to no avail washington has criticised israel's approval of three thousand more settler homes in disputed territories the move came immediately after the un voted to upgrade palestine to a nonmember observer state despite america's opposition party's poilus lead looks now at how the vote affects the situation in the middle east. it might have been a foregone conclusion but that didn't dampen the jubilation on the streets of palestine overwhelming support for upgraded palestinian state has to a nonmember observer state in the un one hundred thirty eight voting in favor nine against forty one abstentions it's an important political and legal victory to hold israel accountable in a practical way on its violations the national law and its violations of the rights of the palestinian people especially on the expansion of illegal settlements palestinians can now apply to join the international criminal court and other global organizations giving me. bargaining chips in dealing with israel but it came at a price wit
the us says it's trying to steer israel and the palestinians back to the table so far to no avail washington has criticised israel's approval of three thousand more settler homes in disputed territories the move came immediately after the un voted to upgrade palestine to a nonmember observer state despite america's opposition party's poilus lead looks now at how the vote affects the situation in the middle east. it might have been a foregone conclusion but that didn't dampen the jubilation on...
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while the internet is down the country there was an initially sold in the media in places like the washington post a move by the assad government possibly to shut down rebel communications but actually looking upon further investigation it looks like it's possible that actually the combination of the united states operatives and the syrian rebels could actually be behind the bringing down the internet and the reason is is because if the blood escalates from that country the last thing that the west wants is any reports coming out on the internet of actual rebel terrorist atrocities in the country across these that we've seen quite a bit of recently. and you are with the future of america's high tech jeopardy find out why silicon valley is shutting out of the innovators who helped create its digital revolution plus. i'm kind of a thought what i don't know doesn't hurt me so if your government is killing innocent people you're ok with that i'm not saying i'm ok with that but. i know i'm contradicting myself but i obviously don't want my government to kill innocent people but in the same boat. h
while the internet is down the country there was an initially sold in the media in places like the washington post a move by the assad government possibly to shut down rebel communications but actually looking upon further investigation it looks like it's possible that actually the combination of the united states operatives and the syrian rebels could actually be behind the bringing down the internet and the reason is is because if the blood escalates from that country the last thing that the...
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internet is down to their country there was an image initially sold in the media in places like the washington post is there a move by the assad government possibly to shut down rebel communications but actually upon further investigation it looks like it's possible that actually the combination of the united states operatives and the syrian rebels could actually be behind the bringing down the internet and the reason is is because if the blood escalates in that country the last thing that the west wants is any reports coming out on the internet of actual rebel terrorist atrocities in a country across these that we've seen quite a bit of recently and now let's look at some other stories making headlines across the globe had least eight people have been injured and a sixty five arrested as clashes broke out at the inauguration of next. president police used tear gas to disperse protesters throwing molotov cocktails who then tried to break through security barriers the demonstrators claim president bought votes to secure his election when. north korea says it will try to launch a long range rock
internet is down to their country there was an image initially sold in the media in places like the washington post is there a move by the assad government possibly to shut down rebel communications but actually upon further investigation it looks like it's possible that actually the combination of the united states operatives and the syrian rebels could actually be behind the bringing down the internet and the reason is is because if the blood escalates in that country the last thing that the...
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but in 2009, washington, d.c. became first in the nation to tie teacher salaries to student test scores under a program called "impact." teachers rated highly effective can get annual bonuses up to $25,000 if they stay at that achievement level for two straight years, they can also get a base salary increase of $20,000. a highly effective teacher can earn $76,000, the first year, and reach $131,000 in just nine years. less effective teachers earn 51,000 to start and are fired if they get poor involveses for two straight years. this year, 98 teachers were fired for poor performance. but nathan saunders, president of the washington teachers union, says the system is unfair to teachers when many of their student have barriers to learning, such as poverty. >> the penalties are so immediate and so painful, not just immediate in terms of their paycheck, but also immediate in terms of their careers. >> reporter: in washington, test scores are still among the lowest in the nation, but improved slightly, up 2.8% in math, 5
but in 2009, washington, d.c. became first in the nation to tie teacher salaries to student test scores under a program called "impact." teachers rated highly effective can get annual bonuses up to $25,000 if they stay at that achievement level for two straight years, they can also get a base salary increase of $20,000. a highly effective teacher can earn $76,000, the first year, and reach $131,000 in just nine years. less effective teachers earn 51,000 to start and are fired if they...
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georgia senator told a group of republicans this weekend that he does not want washington to dictate how he votes and that his commitment is to his constituents. he's one of 39 senators who signed conservative activist norquist pledge but the looming fiscal cliff has caused several lawmakers to walk back from that promise. reliable sources is at the top of the hour. >>> the democratic republic of the congo is a nation the size of all of western europe. it may be in for a violent regime change as rebels have gained ground in recent weeks. congo was the setting for the heart of darkness and that hasn't lifted in 110 years since the story was public . 5.4 million people have died. jeff, why is it that the crisis seems to be heating up? you point out that the congo that the government's army is losing battle after battle. >> i think this is really an issue of state failure. i've been covering congo for six years and i've seen the country get weaker and weaker since i began. there was a big election in 2006 that created a lot of hope and enthusiasm that things were turning around. they ha
georgia senator told a group of republicans this weekend that he does not want washington to dictate how he votes and that his commitment is to his constituents. he's one of 39 senators who signed conservative activist norquist pledge but the looming fiscal cliff has caused several lawmakers to walk back from that promise. reliable sources is at the top of the hour. >>> the democratic republic of the congo is a nation the size of all of western europe. it may be in for a violent regime...
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two very controversial changes in washington. same-sex marriage will become legal there, and we'll also, of course, they'll be legalizing pot. those over 21 can carry up to an ounce of pot starting on thursday in washington. on friday yet another jobs report. the november jobs report this time. 171,000 jobs were added, you may recall, in october, but experts think that maybe superstorm sandy might have slowed the growth this time around. we'll see if that really does have any affect on that jobs report coming out on friday morning. on saturday college football fans pay close attention here. the heisman trophy winner will be announced. we'll find out who the best player in college football really is. >>> who was the only sitting president married in the white house. if you know the answer, tweet me@randi kaye cnn. we'll have the answer after this quick break. [ abdul-rashid ] i've been working since i was about 16. you know, one job or the other. the moment i could access the retirement plan, i just became firm about it -- you kno
two very controversial changes in washington. same-sex marriage will become legal there, and we'll also, of course, they'll be legalizing pot. those over 21 can carry up to an ounce of pot starting on thursday in washington. on friday yet another jobs report. the november jobs report this time. 171,000 jobs were added, you may recall, in october, but experts think that maybe superstorm sandy might have slowed the growth this time around. we'll see if that really does have any affect on that...
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it looks like for this in washington, it's a host of things. at least the democrats are responsible enough to get loans from china. the republicans want to do it without paying for it without any fiscal discipline. at one point the republicans have to do it -- the pledge was the last they based it on. >> nothing was done, though. that's a bad thing, aaron. >> why? i'm not sure that it is. i'm not sure that this fiscal cliff really is a fiscal cliff. i think that it changes the baseline. republicans get better negotiating position on the other side when they are not scared to death of their own shadow and fearful of not looking reasonable. to think that the same joker who is got us this compromise will somehow get us a better compromise is absolutely silly. some of these guys have been voted out by the american public. maybe we should wait until the new people who have been through this before and just through the campaign, when they come in and change, i just have a hard time believing this congress, the one that got us into the mess we are dea
it looks like for this in washington, it's a host of things. at least the democrats are responsible enough to get loans from china. the republicans want to do it without paying for it without any fiscal discipline. at one point the republicans have to do it -- the pledge was the last they based it on. >> nothing was done, though. that's a bad thing, aaron. >> why? i'm not sure that it is. i'm not sure that this fiscal cliff really is a fiscal cliff. i think that it changes the...
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we are talking about the kennedy center honors in washington. that's when politicians set aside their differences for a night to honor some of america's greatest talent. cnn's emily schmidt has a look at tonight's recipients. >> reporter: the kennedy center honors are a bit like washington's oscars, red carpet out front. president and mrs. obama inside to greet seven very different artists. >> it's very rare to see led zeppelin songs being sung at the same time as david letterman jokes are being told, but i think it's going to be a great show. >> reporter: this will be balk dickinson's 20th kennedy honor show. he says there's imagine nick the room because there are no nominees here, no losers. all honorees have earned their place. british band led zeppelin will be here. their songs like "stairway to heaven" are as epic as their songs in the u.s. it's one kind of performance. this is another. russian-born natalia danced with the royal ballet. she performed accident occurring the kennedy center honors in 1981. now others will perform for her. >> c
we are talking about the kennedy center honors in washington. that's when politicians set aside their differences for a night to honor some of america's greatest talent. cnn's emily schmidt has a look at tonight's recipients. >> reporter: the kennedy center honors are a bit like washington's oscars, red carpet out front. president and mrs. obama inside to greet seven very different artists. >> it's very rare to see led zeppelin songs being sung at the same time as david letterman...
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peter doocy live in washington with more. peter, tell us first, speaker boehner -- the big problem right now with the white house proposal that was just presented. >> jamie, speaker boehner says he was flabbergasted when the treasury secretary geithner came to capitol hill and told him what the president wants. and this is why. >> the president is asking for $1.6 trillion worth of new revenue in ten years. twice as much as he has been asking for in public. he had stimulus spending in here that exceeded the amount of new cuts he was willing to consider. it was not a serious offer. >> reporter: secretary geithner says the white house $4 trillion plan has 2 to 1 ratio of cuts to spending increases. but everything we heard from speaker boehner suggests the $1.6 trillion in new revenue the white house wants is too much. especially since boehner does not want to increase tax rate at all. he wants the revenue from the closed loopholes and limited deduction. >> put a new deal on the table but tim geithner, does he say specifically wh
peter doocy live in washington with more. peter, tell us first, speaker boehner -- the big problem right now with the white house proposal that was just presented. >> jamie, speaker boehner says he was flabbergasted when the treasury secretary geithner came to capitol hill and told him what the president wants. and this is why. >> the president is asking for $1.6 trillion worth of new revenue in ten years. twice as much as he has been asking for in public. he had stimulus spending...
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two controversial changes in washington state, same-sex marriage becomes legal on thursday in washington state. we'll also be looking at marijuana. adults over 21 can legally carry up to an ounce of pot, sort of. the federal government still says pot is an illegal drug. that's how they're going to do it in washington on thursday. and on friday, we'll be watching for the jobs report. this is the november jobs report. in october, 171,000 jobs were add a added, you may recall. experts think superstorm sandy could affect this. a lot of people having a hard time getting around, power is out. really put a lot of folks behind. we'll see how that goes. on saturday, a big day for college football fans. heisman trophy winner will be announced. we'll find out who the best player in college football is. last year, can you remember who it is? nfl star robert griffin iii won the heisman. that's your week ahead. >>> well, his name was jordan davis, a 17-year-old boy who was shot and killed at a florida gas station. it all happened after a dispute over loud music. now those closest to davis are saying g
two controversial changes in washington state, same-sex marriage becomes legal on thursday in washington state. we'll also be looking at marijuana. adults over 21 can legally carry up to an ounce of pot, sort of. the federal government still says pot is an illegal drug. that's how they're going to do it in washington on thursday. and on friday, we'll be watching for the jobs report. this is the november jobs report. in october, 171,000 jobs were add a added, you may recall. experts think...
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editor of chief of the washington free deacon. gentlemen, welcome. >> great to be with you. >> shannon: does president obama really want susan rice under oath in front of a group of some, some will be hostile senators who have questions about benghazi? >> i think if he chooses to go that direction, it's -- he has that right. now look, susan rice went through the talks last week. some went well, some didn't go that well. but i think that overall, if it's the president's -- it is his option to do it. i think right now, you know, it looks like he probably will. but i don't think he, my sense is that -- she hasn't done anything yet that is going to disqualify her. senator lieberman said that. you have most of the senate democrats who are rallying behind her. i think if she was put up, i think she would be confirmed. >> shannon: matt, doug mentioned the meetings with the senators this week. some say it's the early making the rounds and trying to make nice as if she is going to be the nominee for secretary of state. some of those meetin
editor of chief of the washington free deacon. gentlemen, welcome. >> great to be with you. >> shannon: does president obama really want susan rice under oath in front of a group of some, some will be hostile senators who have questions about benghazi? >> i think if he chooses to go that direction, it's -- he has that right. now look, susan rice went through the talks last week. some went well, some didn't go that well. but i think that overall, if it's the president's -- it...
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the people inside washington are awfully smart and awfully out of touch. we need to do something about the deficit. going over the fiscal cliff is the best thing we're going to get out of washington in terms of serious production to the deficit. we will suffer, but we got ourselves into this. we're not going to get out without some pain. i think we are going to go over the cliff. >> let me quickly say i don't favor going over the cliff, but howe regard is right. if you're worried about the deficit, the easiest way is to go over the cliff. you have increases right away. >> yeah. >> can i ask you, though, how can you guarantee e that all the extra tax hikes and provisions actually go towards paying the national debt and not more spending and more programs? >> you can't guarantee that but you have a conservative republican congress. they are not going to vote for any spending increase. why not take advantage of that and make the initial cuts and let them go into a stalemate for awhile. that's a pretty big amount. my sges that provides the certainty. we go bac
the people inside washington are awfully smart and awfully out of touch. we need to do something about the deficit. going over the fiscal cliff is the best thing we're going to get out of washington in terms of serious production to the deficit. we will suffer, but we got ourselves into this. we're not going to get out without some pain. i think we are going to go over the cliff. >> let me quickly say i don't favor going over the cliff, but howe regard is right. if you're worried about...